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West Point Grad, Iraqi Vet Attacked, Arrested for Filming Police - [Video]

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: Felony Arrests for videotaping Police Brutality and Misconduct

West Point graduate and Iraqi war veteran Antonio Buehler also appears to discuss his harrowing treatment & arrest on New Year's Eve in Austin, TX after he simply recorded video of what he considered to be police mistreatment of a woman being arrested at a gas station. Buehler gives his take on why he was arrested for 'harassment of a public servant' — a third degree felony after police claimed he was interfering with the DUI suspect already in the process of being arrested. He is currently gathering witness of the event-- including those who recorded video-- to build his case.

Antonio Buehler, 34, was stopping for gas on his way home early Sunday morning when he and his friend heard a woman scream. "We look over, and we see the cop violently yanking the female out of the car," Buehler told KVUE. As seen on the video -- taken by a cell phone from across the street -- the woman had her hands pulled straight out behind her back. Buehler said, "It just looked extremely painful."

Buehler began taking pictures of the scene, which caught the attention of the officers. Read more - watch video;

 


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Jerry Verlinger

"Should law abiding citizens who videotape police on private property, or out in public, be subject to being beaten by police and 2 to 10 years in prison. Should citizens who care about justice become felons?"

  • 35 votes
#1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:09 PM EST
Arieus

West Point Grad, Iraqi Vet Attacked, Arrested for Filming Police -

Sounds a lot like America, the new Jihad America that is. This has been happening in the USA for years now.

  • 23 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:34 PM EST
Arieus

"Should law abiding citizens who videotape police on private property, or out in public, be subject to being beaten by police and 2 to 10 years in prison. Should citizens who care about justice become felons?"

Authority figures should not be above the law. They video tape people, so why not video tape police when they are committing a crime as well. The only police complaining about this are the corrupt ones, and the corrupt ones running the police departments.


  • 29 votes
#1.2 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:36 PM EST
Tappy McWidestance

The courts have already ruled that videotaping of police is LEGAL. But of course this is Texas so the laws of America don't apply.

http://peacefreedomprosperity.com/5618/federal-court-rules-videotaping-police-is-a-first-amendment-right/

  • 29 votes
#1.3 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:53 PM EST
ww-2194637

This is also the law in Illinois and a few other states. You can thank the GOP for this and other draconian laws passed in the wake of 9/11. there are more to come if we don't reel them in. You can no longer pass laws to control certain segments of society and not have them affect us all.

  • 19 votes
#1.4 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:06 PM EST
Rhazes

Thankfully, that I know of no jury has found someone guilty for recording the police. This becoming very common, a lady in Illinois was sexually assaulted by a police officer that came to her house after coming their earlier in the day for police call. When she tried to file a report with the police they told her it would be in her best interest not to, she recorded them doing it so was arrested and tried for recording the police with a possible sentence of up to 24 years, the jury found her innocent.

  • 17 votes
#1.5 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:14 PM EST
Jim watkins-441964

Unfortunately there have been way too many incidents like this. I don't know the recent cause of this behavior but there always have been badge heavy cops out there who think a badge makes them exceptional. I've seen it in every city I've worked in. When caught behaving badly, their superiors try to either cover it up or sweep it under the carpet. You would think that administrators would want to get rid of bad apples when discovered but they don't.

  • 11 votes
#1.6 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:18 PM EST
Reliant

This young man needs to get on some news outlet other than the Alex Jones show. It looks like there is a legitimate complaint against the Police Dept. But he needs a more legitimate outlet to carry his story.

  • 13 votes
#1.7 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:20 PM EST
Rhazes

This young man needs to get on some news outlet other than the Alex Jones show.

Its very hard, to get on the news for these things. Most of the time they don't cover them until after the jury has found them innocent or unless the police kills the person.

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:35 PM EST
gillanator

Fascist Gestapo !!

  • 16 votes
#1.9 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:43 PM EST
Jerry Verlinger

Arieus #1.1

This has been happening in the USA for years now.

Not that many years, it is the advent of the cell phone with video cameras that has caused this problem to arise.

There are currently some states that have laws directly banning the taping of police actions, and others that are using existing wiretapping laws to stifle the public from taping the cops at work.

The Federal District Court ruling notes by Tappy McWidestance in #1.3 is contested by some states as encroaching on States Rights, there will not be a definitive answer to the problem until we get a SCOTUS ruling.

  • 7 votes
#1.10 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:57 PM EST
Chuck1968

its been happening since video cameras came out. It wsnt a big issue until the internet became popular and the cops were exposed as bullies to the general public. Once people started getting upset the police unions pushed for laws against video taping.

http://www.newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid/266/ID/5282/Man-maced-brutalized-during-arrest-for-videotaping-police-officer-is-found-guilty-of-the-Crime-of-videotaping-a-police-officer-You-can-help-this-man-out.aspx

and yes people are being convicted and spending time in jail for outing the police for what they really are...thugs with badges.

  • 11 votes
#1.11 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:14 PM EST
Jerry Verlinger

Interesting article Chuck, you should seed it and post it to the Official Abuse & Misconduct and Police Brutality & Impropriety groups.

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:40 PM EST
vttova

I guess I don't get out much (never heard of Alex Jones), but about 3/4 of the way in when the host started his babbling about the Presidents 'power grabs', I became much less likely to believe the complete story.
Dude, nodding your head in agreement with crazy will not help your case. Sounds like the facts are clear enough without the grandstanding.

  • 10 votes
#1.13 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:22 PM EST
RT-36

but about 3/4 of the way in when the host started his babbling about the Presidents 'power grabs', I became much less likely to believe the complete story

That's when I turned the video off.

  • 12 votes
#1.14 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:16 PM EST
Honor and Harmony

Police better start getting their sh1t together because the citizenry are about to turn on them. They are going to mess around and pizz off someone from the special forces community and its going to get bloody.

  • 9 votes
#1.15 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:33 PM EST
spankola

Police should be required to wear Police Investigation Gathering video cams, PIG cams if you will, at all times they are on duty.

Their extraordinary privilege should be balanced with extraordinary scrutiny.

  • 9 votes
#1.16 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:51 PM EST
Halifax Oliver

I'm not sure I'd call being a cop an extraordinary privilege. Actually, I definitely wouldn't. There are an awful lot, a ton of them, that do a great, thankless job.

  • 6 votes
#1.17 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:58 PM EST
spankola

It is the only person in our society allowed take away your freedom, beat you and to kill you. Thankless?? Wannabe cops are lined up to take the job.

Sounds like you are suffering from a form Stockholm's syndrome.

Cops love being cops. They do not care if you thank them.

  • 7 votes
#1.18 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:26 AM EST
spankola

Furthermore, it is a thankless job because so many have abused their priviledge. A PIG cam will restore the public's respect and eliminate abuse.

Think about it. They record perps whenever they can. Why not record them.

  • 9 votes
#1.19 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:31 AM EST
gillanator

It looks like Blackwater is running our Police departments now.

  • 10 votes
#1.20 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:02 AM EST
Nick46

Thankfully, that I know of no jury has found someone guilty for recording the police.

I am not sure that there will be a trial. SCOTUS has ruled that this is legal.

  • 3 votes
#1.21 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:43 AM EST
swagg

Yeah mentioning the president and power grabs ruined the whole story. It's a shame how opinionated pricks have ruined journalism.

  • 8 votes
#1.22 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:52 AM EST
Jerry Verlinger

SCOTUS has ruled that this is legal.

Do you have a link for that ruling Nick? As far as I know there have only been Federal District Court rulings.

  • 1 vote
#1.23 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:59 AM EST
Jerry Verlinger

I guess I don't get out much (never heard of Alex Jones), but about 3/4 of the way in when the host started his babbling about the Presidents 'power grabs', I became much less likely to believe the complete story.

I don't see where the unnecessary rantings of Alex Jones makes any difference to the story, I just ignored him, and listened to Buehler tell his story. Also the video of Buehlers' arrest speaks for itself.

Because Jones is an @!$%#, it doesn't mean Buehler is making up his story.

So, for those doubters, check out these stats;

From January 2010 through December 2010 the National Police Misconduct Statistics and Reporting Project recorded 4,861 unique reports of police misconduct that involved 6,613 sworn law enforcement officers and 6,826 alleged victims.

  • 4,861 – Unique reports of police misconduct tracked
  • 6,613 - Number of sworn law enforcement officers involved (354 were agency leaders such as chiefs or sheriffs)
  • 6,826 - Number of alleged victims involved
  • 247 – Number of fatalities associated with tracked reports
  • $346,512,800 – Estimated amount spent on misconduct-related civil judgments and settlements excluding sealed settlements, court costs, and attorney fees.

And then check out these videos;

The Worst Police Misconduct Videos of 2011

Police brutality and misconduct is out of control in this country, and I have no reason to doubt Buehlers' story.

  • 5 votes
#1.24 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:21 AM EST
gillanator

Jerry - if the doubters do a search they will find that this story is validated on many sites. How it is delivered obviously isn't as important as it's message. It's just too hard for people to realize that we no longer live in our grandfather's America.

  • 6 votes
#1.25 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:30 AM EST
mtpromises

I dunno, but I've tried to watch the video, and it keeps saying 'an error has occurred' guess I'll go search you tube

  • 5 votes
#1.26 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:33 AM EST
Shuklack

I think the police can use a dose of their own line of reasoning:

Why not allow videotaping if you got nothing to hide?

  • 9 votes
#1.27 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:43 AM EST
WoodieRae-3499404

I lost a small amount of respect for the victim when I found out he's an avid Ron Paul supporter. I was hoping to link to the actual video of the incident itself. Instead, I landed on some wind bag who smoked too long and liked to hear himself talk, all the while saying very little.

@ Razes, 1.5: As far as going to trial and being found innocent, it's not a victory. A) we wasted taxpayer dollars for it, and B) No doubt she had to cough up funds for an attorney, miss work, and deal with the stress of knowing the cops will make her pay, one way or the other.

In Minnesota, in order to be a cop, you have to pass a personalty inventory test. I've been on the unfriendly side of our Great Police Force, and I've seen first hand the abuses they have of the law and their position. I've come to believe that the personality inventory test just asks two questions: 1) Do you have a pulse? 2) Do you like money? And to those two cops whose reputations I've besmirched, find another job. Your position is almost devalued to that of an attorney or used car salesperson.

  • 5 votes
#1.28 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:55 PM EST
Foy-49

Dear Mr. Police Officer

It has become obvious to "We The People" that police kill innocent people with great regularity in our country.

Given that fact, please explain why I should not be in fear for my life when ever I am confronted by one of you ?

Why should I not act in justifiable self defence ?

Should any given zebra not fear the pride of lions because; they only actually eat a fraction of a percent of all the zebras ?

  • 5 votes
#1.29 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:06 PM EST
austinrick

Every political candidate should be questioned point blank about what they intend to do about 'police' in this country.

Personally, I'm leaving Austin as soon as my mother doesn't need me anymore, in part because of the quality of people that have moved in and ruined this town, and partly because of the totalitarian climate here. Hell, the APD can't even enforce the traffic laws, but abusive treatment of citizens is routine. We may still be innocent till proven guilty in some places, but not here.

  • 9 votes
#1.30 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:25 PM EST
Jerry Verlinger

Personally, I'm leaving Austin as soon as my mother doesn't need me anymore ......... because of the totalitarian climate here. Hell, the APD can't even enforce the traffic laws, but abusive treatment of citizens is routine.

Leaving Austin is not necessarily going to allow you to escape a "totalitarian climate". The DOJ is currently investigating the police departments of 11 major American cities because of escalating police brutality complaints.

I regularly monitor the National Police Misconduct Statistics and Reporting Project, and there are cases of police brutality and abuse of power in every corner of this country, both rural and cosmopolitan.

  • 4 votes
#1.31 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:06 PM EST
Wm. Sanders

This is a pervasive cancer in our society. And if you don't think it can happen in your backyard, it is only a matter of time. Here in my state of Oklahoma, the Tulsa PD has undergone a major scandal involving police misconduct and wrongful drug arrests. Many of the cases have been dismissed or overturned (and a few other cases involving the officers in question have resulted in convictions). Even a few of our smaller cities have undergone some scandals (Just read the Tulsa World).

Video is the ultimate equalizer. They say a picture is worth a thousand words...a video can (and has) served as the ultimate rebuttal to the golden word of police testimony. It is not the corrupt cop that has a problem with being in the spotlight. It is the cockroaches...the "far less than pure" officers who abuse their authority that fear the public eye.

Who watches the watchmen indeed?

  • 4 votes
#1.32 - Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:44 AM EST
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americandreamshattered

no and no

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:10 PM EST
GaryColumbus

This is one of many cases when it was the officers / police / law enforcement who were the criminal element of the situation. If we live in an honest society of rules the officers are the ones who should be held accountable period! But there is a reality that tells all of us in the back of our minds that more than likely these officers will be acquitted of any wrong doing. AND the true victims could be facing all levels of retribution from law enforcement in general because they had the audacity to contradict officials of said system.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:04 PM EST
Jerry Verlinger

".....more than likely these officers will be acquitted of any wrong doing."

Not necessarily.

see; The Co$t of Police Mi$conduct

and

Police Lose $1.5mil Suit to Man Pistol-Whipped in Cover Up Case

Pennsylvania Police Dept. Pays $25,000 to Settle Dog Shooting Case

Cop Indicted in Death of Chicago 7 Yr. Old Killed in Police Raid

Police Lose $1.5mil Suit to Man Pistol-Whipped in Cover Up Case

Former NY Police Officer Convicted of Manslaughter

APNewsBreak: Fullerton CA Police Officer Charged With Murder in Death of Kelly Thomas

$500,000 Settlement Proposed in Des Moines Police Excessive Force Case

And that's just a few only going back to last September.

  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:28 PM EST
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RACHEL1-933952

Though the law is clear and courts have consistently upheld these rights, in numerous cases individuals have been illegally harassed, detained, or arrested for taking pictures of police officers (as well as other legally permissible subjects, such as transportation facilities and outside of federal buildings). Multimedia journalist Carlos Miller has documented many of these cases on his blog, Photography is Not a Crime.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/240250/faq_when_can_you_capture_cops_on_camera.html

If the courts have upheld that still photography is legal, then it's time to get with the modern era of cell phone video cameras and make it 100% legal!!

  • 13 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:38 PM EST
Yosho

Video is just a series of still images run rapidly. Can't that be used ?

  • 5 votes
#3.1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:44 PM EST
spankola

Police should be required to wear Police Investigation Gathering video cams, PIG cams if you will, at all times they are on duty.

Their extraordinary privilege should be balanced with extraordinary scrutiny.

  • 7 votes
#3.2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:00 AM EST
petridishofideas

The picture the guy took WERE stills. The guy across the street....you kno, the one that showed the COPS LIED....well, that was video!

  • 4 votes
#3.3 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:23 PM EST
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chitownty

Support the troops.Yeah right.

  • 9 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:50 PM EST
ww-2194637

Ah I see were coming out of that Bush era coma. It's about time.

  • 9 votes
#4.1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:08 PM EST
chitownty

Never was in one.

  • 7 votes
#4.2 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:11 PM EST
ww-2194637

General comment I attached to your post not an accusation aimed directly towards you my bad. You from Chi? I grew up on the West Siiiide. :-)

  • 7 votes
#4.3 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:22 PM EST
chitownty

yes sir(or maam) south side in the house.

  • 9 votes
#4.4 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:31 PM EST
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Rhazes

All police should be required to carry audio/video recorders and if they lose them they should be replaced immediately and deducted from the officers pay to keep them from losing them on purpose. This will speed up real criminal cases and at the same time protect tax payers from frivolous lawsuit's and protect tax payers from having their rights violated by police officers.

Any non undercover case where the audio/video is not available should be thrown out.

We would save billions a year.

  • 16 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:32 PM EST
roadhead

All police should be required to carry audio/video recorders and if they lose them they should be replaced immediately and deducted from the officers pay to keep them from losing them on purpose.

In this day and age, there is zero reason why this should not be required of every single police agency and officer. Too many times have innocent people been railroaded by the bully tactics of bad cops. No legitimate officer should have any reason for not having both audio and video available for every single arrest.

As the cops and their backers love to say, if you have done nothing wrong then what do you have to be afraid of? I bet we would end up seeing a major step towards curtailing this kind of abuse if the police were forced to prove that their actions did not violate any rights. The cops and others in authority detest this kind of accountability to the lowly peons. People should just shut their mouths and had better not dare look behind the curtain.

The legitimate cops should be happy to see a rule like this as it would help weed out all the bad cops. This would end up returning the police to a point of being better than a criminal, as a too large percentage of them are today.

We have seen our rights and freedoms erode drastically since 9/11. Militarization of our police forces, no knock warrants, the unpatriotic act extended and expanded, the recent ndaa act. We are at a critical junction in our history and we are right back at the stage of 1936-45 again.

Time to put a stop to the madness before it is too late. I hope that it isn't too little too late already.

The cops in Austin should not only be sued for their abuse of authority and violation of their duties, they should also be locked up for violating the Constitution and basic human rights. Anything less will be seen as a victory by the cops and their power hungry backers. Hopefully there will be a number of citizens who aren't either afraid of, or awed by the cops, who will sit on this mans jury and do the right thing.

  • 8 votes
#5.1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:37 PM EST
Foy-49

#26 - That just makes way to much sense.

  • 3 votes
#5.2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:57 PM EST
flameaway

Umm the cops do typically carry video recorders wired into their cars. They also generally carry audio recording devices similar to a zip drive. They upload the contents after each shift. This is why it is terribly unwise to give police anything more than your name and address - information you are required to supply.

Any question they ask other than that should be answered "I chose to remain silent."

  • 3 votes
#5.3 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:29 PM EST
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Daniel The Mensch

There is no expectation of privacy for that which is done in public. So long as people do not hinder arresting officers, you can film whatever you want. Some states may have passed laws saying otherwise but a jury of your peers still has to hand down the guilty verdict and that is where the rubber meets the road when it comes to the law. I seriously doubt any jury is going to convict someone for taking video of anything that is done in public. The supreme court has numerous cases setting the precident for privacy in America....states can pass all the laws they want, it doesn't make it legal.

  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:44 PM EST
spankola

You can bet the facility has video cams. It has been established that it is the standard of prudent security to have such security cams.

Furthermore, police should be required to wear Police Investigation Gathering video cams, PIG cams if you will, at all times they are on duty.

Their extraordinary privilege should be balanced with extraordinary scrutiny.

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:03 AM EST
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Jeff in Houston

Gotta love my home state and it's stubborn will to ignore the constitution, science, civil rights, well, anything past the 1800's I guess. But I keep trying. Damn few of us though.

Things like this make me ashamed to be a Texan.

  • 13 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:53 PM EST
spankola

I hear hear ya bro. Those cops are lucky they picked on such a Boy Scout. In Southeast Texas we skin cops like that.

Really, big city cops are the worst. Houston cops are known for giving swimming lessons in Buffalo Bayou to hand cuffed Viet Nam Vets.

I have taken an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Bad Cops are domestic enemies.

  • 12 votes
#7.1 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:15 AM EST
petridishofideas

@spankola....so are the gNOp politician and pundits. I too took the same oath!

  • 5 votes
#7.2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST
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Kozakura-1552259

In before "I'll wait and see what the police report says"

The police should be required to behave like professionals, not thugs.

  • 10 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:03 PM EST
Halifax Oliver

Accountability for those in authority or trust positions (cops, teachers, pastors, etc) should be under a microscope, not illegal.

  • 8 votes
Reply#9 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:26 PM EST
T'omm J'Onzz

quis custodiet ipsos custodes.

excellent seed, Jerry. i think in this day and age with PDs getting anti-terrorist equipment and training, with the brutal and fascistic occurrences against people and their rights (think near-deadly assaults on OWS gatherings), "i'm gonna kick your ass" just doesn't rise to the proper level anymore, so that should probably be 'upgraded.' hopefully, the "get[ting] away with it" part will become more and more less true, also.

and yet again, against military veterans. i wonder how feelings compare with those from the Vietnam era when they came home. then they were spit on but by civilians and an eminently survivable experience. now they manage to make it out with life and limb and they come back to a veritable different, undeclared war zone to sustain critical wounds at the hands of other "watchmen."

  • 9 votes
Reply#10 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:33 PM EST
Carolyn Johansen

These bully cops need to be caught in the act on video, arrested, tried, convicted and sent to prison. What is wrong with out nation? We have a great US Constitution but nobody in authority seems to know what it says!

  • 4 votes
Reply#11 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:10 AM EST
steven-791492

Nobody should be arrested and beaten for taping cops.... but this guy doing this interview, has way to much baggage to even faintly neutral.... but then he is not trying to be a journalist.

I hope the young man has a great lawyer .... the story could have stood by itself without the pushing along by the host.

  • 9 votes
Reply#12 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:28 AM EST
yeagerdog

Any one that is in a public place can be photographed and there are plenty of precedents that have been approved by the courts of the land. These presents laws that are being passed, are being passed by republicans that do not believe in freedom.

It seems to me that there is a blockage in getting these cases into the courts, but when they do get to court, the courts will have no other choice then to strike down these laws.

  • 7 votes
Reply#13 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:05 AM EST
Fox_News

"Oh Nooo!!" exclaimed Bruce. (Family Guy gay guy)

  • 1 vote
Reply#14 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:34 AM EST
robot-2760353

When do they start passing out swastika armbands?

  • 6 votes
Reply#15 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:05 AM EST
Harbinger-2218646

There's no need for them.

It's Texas.

  • 4 votes
#15.1 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:00 PM EST
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fronco

Jerry, what ever happened to good old police training, im not going to pick sides here im going to let a jury do that, i just cant understand why police cameras were not used here, and if they did why din't they show their video version to the media maybe we can all see the suspect spiting on the officer and that would have ended it. but i do admit the police looked very unprofessional the way they handled the matter.

  • 5 votes
Reply#16 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:51 AM EST
reddirthippy

but it is just some bad apples/s/

Lie, lie some more and get your buddies to lie, get your department to support your lies and be sure to intimidate witnesses.

Keep the video running and your mouth shut. When fillming don't say a word and have a quick method to up load.

  • 5 votes
Reply#17 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:01 AM EST
trekie70

Sounds like this vet has a good case. Hopefully justice will be served, the vet will be acquitted and these cops will be severely disciplined.

  • 3 votes
Reply#18 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:10 AM EST
Harbinger-2218646

Fascism is a Republican fantasy that they are constantly trying to make real.

  • 5 votes
Reply#19 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:59 PM EST
flameaway

So, if we can't film the police beating the @!$%# out of women and kids, where does that leave us?

Obviously, we can't simply complain and expect justice - there has to be evidence...

Who will guard the guardians? No one; that's the point.

  • 6 votes
Reply#20 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:06 PM EST
fronco

This vet looks like a good kid just trying to help, but i will say this if these are bad apples i think the rest of the officers in that department will look up to that vet and help out with the truth because good police officers just can't stand bad apples. so please keep that in mind.

  • 2 votes
Reply#21 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:06 PM EST
flameaway

Please view this video

http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff2/chad-holley-brutally-beaten-by-houston-police-on-tape/

Please notice all the 'good' police officers just standing around while this boy is beaten.

  • 6 votes
#21.1 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:43 PM EST
cjbak

Fronco, ain't going to happen. The good cops are always overruled in just about every situation and told to just be quiet. Texas has always been an "our way or the highway" state especially when it comes to law enforcement and their government. Do what I do, drive around the state. Been there once and I will drive thru china to get to california before I enter that state again. TexA$$ does not like cameras unless they are the ones using them.

  • 2 votes
#21.2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:26 PM EST
reddirthippy

Please notice all the 'good' police officers just standing around while this boy is beaten.

also note that if this tape had not been released nothing at all would have been done.

  • 4 votes
#21.3 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:14 AM EST
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flameaway

When cops start messing with women and kids, it's only a matter of time before someone gets pissed enough to start shooting back.

When it happens make sure you remember that cops ain't all nice guys/gals.

  • 8 votes
Reply#22 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:09 PM EST
Eoin-899252

one of the few times I can say I agree with your statement. How long do you think it is going to take until someone say's Enough! and just defend themselves and shoot the Rouge/Crooked Cop?

Unfortunately some of these bad Cop seem to think that the Badge makes them God. Well guess what, that badge will not stop a bullet and most folks are sick and tired of these bad cops and someone is going to get killed because of it. There Capt. is as much to Blame as the Officers in question.

They all should step down and find a different job.

  • 2 votes
#22.1 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:45 PM EST
RACHEL1-933952

Rouge/Crooked Cop

Eoin- I never say anything about one's spelling, but this cracked me up! blush/crooked cop?

Rogue/Crooked Cop...sorry, I just found it funny.

*forgive me?*

  • 4 votes
#22.2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:51 PM EST
flameaway

It was that cop from the village people.

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  • 6 votes
#22.3 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:56 PM EST
Eoin-899252

no worries RACHEL1-933952 I should of checked it before posting it but I was in a bit of a hurry.

  • 2 votes
#22.4 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:08 PM EST
RACHEL1-933952

flameaway- too funny! Where have you been?

Eoin- I know, I goof up often, especially when in a hurry, but, kinda like what flame wrote, I saw big red cheeks and a crooked body when I read it! Glad no one else is in the office with me!!

And, please call me Rach. All my "blue" friends do.

  • 4 votes
#22.5 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:15 PM EST
flameaway

Heya Rachel,

I've been riding life's roller coaster. I've been doing a lot of writing. BTW I posted my concluding article on rape. It tells about the past couple of years. I was gone so long no one checks my page anymore...

  • 5 votes
#22.6 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:28 PM EST
RACHEL1-933952

I was gone so long no one checks my page anymore...

Not true, just still only computer I have is at work...one of these days, the desert sand, dust, wind and poor electrical will stop and I'll have a home computer for more than 8 months or so...

  • 5 votes
#22.7 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:32 PM EST
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flameaway

You know... I just had a great idea. I'm going to go get me one of those medic alert bracelets.

It will say. "Fragile: not to be subjected to police brutality."

What do you think? That will work won't it? I may have just singlehandedly saved the occupy movement. Where's my Nobel?

  • 6 votes
Reply#23 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:43 PM EST
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